Pool/Masonry Question

[CaptainsLS]

Ok so I thought I had this all figured out (thanks Steve) but now they threw a wrench in my plans. A client of mine is having a rectangular, vertical sided, fiberglass pool installed. We are responsible for the coping. The pool company will be pouring the “locking collar” around the pool to a length of 2'.

Wrench: The customer wants grass up to the coping. (feel like rusk)

Solution: Pool company tells the customer they will angle the locking collar down, in order to allow grass to meet the 16” wide coping. This allows room for the soil to plant the grass.

My plan: Use mortar to raise up the part of the locking collar to make the coping level.
Question: Let mortar cure, and thin-set the bluestone to the mortar?

Wrench2: Fiberglass+Masonry= No Bond?
My Plan: Use self taping screws to screw metal lathe to the fiberglass, and create a substrate?

My Plan 2: Do nothing. Use only the locking collar to achieve bond, and use silicone to seal the bead where the coping cantilevers over the fiberglass.

Conclusion: I don't like pools.

[mrusk]

Use lathe.

Now here is the thing. You do your lathe then you are stuck seeing the mortar joint when you are in the pool. There is special coping made called 'remodler' coping and is notched and hides the mortar joint. The mortar joint can also be hid if you do the coping and then tile the pool.

What type of coping are they looking to install?

[CaptainsLS]

Bluestone treads, 16" deep, bullnosed and rock-faced. I would think using thin set, the joint would be minimal, but a bead of silicone might look nice with the natural materials?

[mrusk]

Captian.

If i was you I would put the lathe on. Then build up the concrete colar around the pool factor edge. Then thin set the treads to both the lathe and colar.

[custom patios]

Ok so I thought I had this all figured out (thanks Steve) but now they threw a wrench in my plans. A client of mine is having a rectangular, vertical sided, fiberglass pool installed. We are responsible for the coping. The pool company will be pouring the “locking collar” around the pool to a length of 2'.

Wrench: The customer wants grass up to the coping. (feel like rusk)

Solution: Pool company tells the customer they will angle the locking collar down, in order to allow grass to meet the 16” wide coping. This allows room for the soil to plant the grass.

My plan: Use mortar to raise up the part of the locking collar to make the coping level.
Question: Let mortar cure, and thin-set the bluestone to the mortar?

Wrench2: Fiberglass+Masonry= No Bond?
My Plan: Use self taping screws to screw metal lathe to the fiberglass, and create a substrate?

My Plan 2: Do nothing. Use only the locking collar to achieve bond, and use silicone to seal the bead where the coping cantilevers over the fiberglass.

Conclusion: I don't like pools.


Question. why is it necessary to angle anything! the pool guys know better. if they want a 2 foot collar, they still need to provide you with an adequately prepared area for the coping.if they were doing the coping, they would. at 16" out or so (minus overhang) simply step the pour to allow for enough topsoil to grow the grass. if you were to picture the collar pour from a side view, it may look something like two steps in a staircase, with the top step centered about halfway over the bottom step.the top step in this case would be 16" long. Step it down 4-6" to the lower leg of the collar. run it to their 2'+ length.