View Full Version : First Project of the year!
cgland
04-26-2008, 06:01 PM
Here is a project we finished up this year (started last year) EP Henry Cov I pavers and Cov 3"/6" combo walls.
P.S. I know the top pad slopes alot. All we did was overlay and veneer it. No other way around the slope look.
cgland
04-27-2008, 01:06 AM
Wow, no comments! It must be snowing outside!
HRLand
04-27-2008, 09:18 AM
What happened, did you forget to put the grill in? Looks good.
custom patios
04-27-2008, 09:48 AM
Chris, do you work with a particular company for your countertops? ive seen a couple that you have shown and they look similar if not the same. nice cuts by the way, very clean look as always, but i think you should get your guys to start mitering corners. They dont take long to do and from an installers point of view, mitering corners shows that fine detail work has been given proper attention. Anyway, its another way to separate US from THEM:spy:. ya know what a mean?
custom patios
04-27-2008, 09:51 AM
the only thing i see that concerns me is the height of the lower patio up against that basement window. That looks pretty risky to me. Heavy rain or snow?
cgland
04-27-2008, 10:49 AM
the only thing i see that concerns me is the height of the lower patio up against that basement window. That looks pretty risky to me. Heavy rain or snow?
Steve - It's hard to tell, but in front of the basement window is a window well that we had to build. Inside the well is a drain that ties into the rain leader system.
Our countertops are done by a company called J&P marble. They have done 3 so far for us and ironically every customer has chosen the same color!!
custom patios
04-27-2008, 10:58 AM
Steve - It's hard to tell, but in front of the basement window is a window well that we had to build. Inside the well is a drain that ties into the rain leader system.
Our countertops are done by a company called J&P marble. They have done 3 so far for us and ironically every customer has chosen the same color!!
i figured you had some kind of drain going on. its just really hard to see. very nice.i like the fact that its not too obvious. thats an interesting approach to the well construction. so its a narrow well? the length of the window, right?
cgland
04-27-2008, 10:59 AM
We do mitre most of our corners, but to be honest, when we did the cutting on the lower patio it was about 15 degrees out and I made the executive decision to forgo the mitering. Does it look bad..:noidea: Could it be better...sure. Here is a pic of the top pad where we mitered everything.
custom patios
04-27-2008, 11:02 AM
We do mitre most of our corners, but to be honest, when we did the cutting on the lower patio it was about 15 degrees out and I made the executive decision to forgo the mitering. Does it look bad..:noidea: Could it be better...sure. Here is a pic of the top pad where we mitered everything.
no,no... it doesnt look bad. we just know what your capable of. yeah, 15 degrees and cutting pavers isnt my cup of tea either.
cgland
04-27-2008, 11:05 AM
i figured you had some kind of drain going on. its just really hard to see. very nice.i like the fact that its not too obvious. thats an interesting approach to the well construction. so its a narrow well? the length of the window, right?
Yeah, it's the width of the window and it extends 18" into the patio. We plumb a drain at the bottom, tie it into the rain leaders and fill the bottom of the well w/ riverstone.
mrusk
04-27-2008, 11:12 AM
Chris- You do very good work. Why do you run the pavers right up to the house vs putting a planter along the foundation to soften up the house?
Belive it or not I never built a paver patio. I have a few coming up and we get them as far off the house as possible and seperate the house from the patio with plantings. One of the main reasons for this is to eliminate settling in the over dig area of the house. Also I think it helps eliminate that 'cookie cutter' look most paver patios have.
Just osmething to think about on future designs.
custom patios
04-27-2008, 11:16 AM
Chris- You do very good work. Why do you run the pavers right up to the house vs putting a planter along the foundation to soften up the house?
Belive it or not I never built a paver patio. I have a few coming up and we get them as far off the house as possible and seperate the house from the patio with plantings. One of the main reasons for this is to eliminate settling in the over dig area of the house. Also I think it helps eliminate that 'cookie cutter' look most paver patios have.
Just osmething to think about on future designs.
Matt, you have to be carefull designing beds between the foundation of a house and patio. if they are made too narrow they can trap water between the two structures. water cant pass easily thru a modified base.
giving enough room for planting beds between the structures is very important in avoiding future water problems.
cgland
04-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Matt - For the most part, this is a large patio in our area. In this case we could have paced a bed against the foundation, but the customer really wanted more usable space because they entertain alot...plus the bottom level will most likely see a hot tub in the future thus robbing them of more space....and as always we addressed the over dig on this job. I do agree though that beds can be a very important element in softening a patio, although they are sometimes not appropriate within the design.
chardscapes
04-27-2008, 09:32 PM
How did you stablilize your overdig ?
cgland
04-27-2008, 10:38 PM
Just like this!
chardscapes
04-28-2008, 10:18 AM
Did you stablilize just wihin the stair area or the whole pavement ? What compactor did you use in the overdig area 1550 ? Jumping jack ?
custom patios
04-28-2008, 10:26 AM
Did you stablilize just wihin the stair area or the whole pavement ? What compactor did you use in the overdig area 1550 ? Jumping jack ?
Josh, 1550's really dont have the compaction required for what we do. i think they put out around 3450. its more like an asphalt tamper. if you have one, you should consider upgrading to a minimum of 4000 lbs. centrifugal force. years ago i had a 1550 and i had to compact like every 2 inches MAX.! what a bummer. for overdig stabalizing you should have around 4000. ICPI says use 4000 but i have used 6000 with no problems.
cgland
04-28-2008, 01:22 PM
we use a 5,800# machine. The important thing is to make sure you use the 2" foam board to protect the foundation walls.
chardscapes
04-28-2008, 02:38 PM
I have a 6250# machine as well. I just thought it may crack the foundation.
zedosix
04-28-2008, 03:13 PM
Looks nice Chris, I will be doing a set of steps using that bullnose coping, it will be my first attempt to try and be different. Most guys here don't use that style of cap. I think it gives it a classy look.
Couple of things about the patio, I may or may not of done different. I would of tried to tie in that little seat wall with the counter, and I would of put a planter against the wall. Other than that looks great as usual.
GreenMonster
04-28-2008, 11:06 PM
Chris, your work is always impressive.
My one comment is that on a job with this much material, it might have been nice to get a little more contrast with the bullnose, or soldier, or cap. A hardscape that large seems to work good with "paver quilting", to steal a term from Unilock. I like how more than one color breaks up the look.
lawnkid
04-28-2008, 11:50 PM
That looks real nice. Now I'm really jealous of the products you guys have only a couple hours away. Can someone please put in a word to EP Henry to come a couple miles west. Chris, are those EP Henry spec sheets available online?
cgland
04-29-2008, 07:06 PM
mark - its hard to tell, but the border is EP's new Brown color w/ the body being harvest blend it Is quite a contrast. I should try to get some pics when its wet.
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