Pillar Waterfall

[cgland]

Anyone have any construction pics of a waterfall coming out of a pillar? I want to design one into a project I am looking at, but have never done one.

Chris

[zedosix]

Here is one we did a few years back. Hope it helps.

[zedosix]

Sorry just re-read your post, you said construction pics. I only have a few but don't know how helpful they will be. What did you need to know?

[GroundScapes]

The second picture is my favorite part of a job. Everything is finished and the homeowner is happy handing you a check.

She is the homeowner, right? I doubt she is a "bricklayer":dance:

Job looks great as usually Zedo.

[zedosix]

Thanks Ground, I see you caught that one about the "brick-layer":pound:

[kris]

I really like the looks of that! Can you explain the construction process?

edit...just the pillar and the inner workings.

[chardscapes]

I remember that project. Great creativity Z..

[zedosix]

I have no pictures of the inner workings but this should help. Its all basic pillar construction except you have alot of cutting and shaping of the upper layer of block that holds the sheer descent. I will try and find another picture in my files that could show the detail. As you can see there is electrical concerns here as well, I hired my electrician bud to take care of that. We are not licensed to play with wiring so we leave that to the professionals.

[MuirView Design]

Man, that's looks sweet. I think it would be neat to have a waterfall coming out of a sitting wall between two pillars too. that way you could tuck the pond back a little. Awesome work Zedo......as usual. Clean and crisp would be the two words I'd choose to describe all your jobs!

[cgland]

I guess I'm just not sure how the liner integrates w/ the block/caps. Is gravity the only thing holding it in place? Glue? We do alot of ponds, so the plumbing isn't a big deal, it's just the block/liner issue. Especially w/ the folds of the liner.

Chris

[zedosix]

I guess I'm just not sure how the liner integrates w/ the block/caps. Is gravity the only thing holding it in place? Glue? We do alot of ponds, so the plumbing isn't a big deal, it's just the block/liner issue. Especially w/ the folds of the liner.

Chris

I cut out most of the folds (left about 3" from edge of pond) so the caps wouldn't stick up too much. Then glued it with pl. and on the outside edge of the caps I used butyl tape to make up the difference in height. I hadn't done any previous to that and if anyone has a better idea how to bond it to the cap I'm all ears.

[STLPONDS]

Hopefully that pump will last more than a few months.

[zedosix]

Hopefully that pump will last more than a few months.

It isn't the finished product as you see. We enclosed it with these algae remover "balls"(for lack of better words) its been 2 and a half years now and all is still good. Why do you say, maybe I'm missing something?

[STLPONDS]

It isn't the finished product as you see. We enclosed it with these algae remover "balls"(for lack of better words) its been 2 and a half years now and all is still good. Why do you say, maybe I'm missing something?

I just replaced an ADI 3000 pump a couple weeks ago that was only in since late May. Every ADI Horizontal pump I replace has a problem with the impellers siezing up. Yours should be a little better off since your waterfall doesn't have any gravel in it I assume. I plan on switching to a regular vertical pump, but they are harder to hide in applications like yours.

[Grn Mtn]

nice job, that gives me some good ideas.

what if the pillar were made to go down into the ground, then instead of all the flow robbing 90* bends all you would be doing is a straight intake pipe to a verticle pump that doesn't even need to be submersible.

also if its going into a round app, why not just use a preformed and treat it like a pool cap. ---just thoughts.

[zedosix]

nice job, that gives me some good ideas.

what if the pillar were made to go down into the ground, then instead of all the flow robbing 90* bends all you would be doing is a straight intake pipe to a verticle pump that doesn't even need to be submersible.

also if its going into a round app, why not just use a preformed and treat it like a pool cap. ---just thoughts.

The pillar starts about 5" under the patio height, the pipe has to be routed above the liner or the pond will leak, its a matter of sealing it off so we routed it above. The sheer descent works fine even with 3 90 deg bends.

I wanted additional height on the pond, which was made easy by building with block and liner. Again there are many ways these can be done, I've used the prefabs in the past but I like the raised look of the block.

[dclark2037]

Zedosix
I am proposing a raised patio with a sitting wall and behind one of the sitting walls I am wanting to do a sheer decent waterfall. My question is what product did you use? The only one I have found is http://www.coastalpond.com/pond-waterfall-kits-atlantic-waterfall-kits-c-14_224.html . David

[zedosix]

Zedosix
I am proposing a raised patio with a sitting wall and behind one of the sitting walls I am wanting to do a sheer decent waterfall. My question is what product did you use? The only one I have found is http://www.coastalpond.com/pond-waterfall-kits-atlantic-waterfall-kits-c-14_224.html . David

Products came from "the pond clinic" the product name is http://www.aquascapeinc.com/

[dclark2037]

Thanks Zedosix,
Did you put the pieces together to make the waterfall because i did not find a kit like the one I linked to in the previous post. Thanks and love you work.

[zedosix]

Thanks Zedosix,
Did you put the pieces together to make the waterfall because i did not find a kit like the one I linked to in the previous post. Thanks and love you work.

You need to bring a sketch of what your are planning to do to someone in the pond retail business, include measurements and height of intended descent. They will configure it for you.

[CaptainsLS]

Hey Zedo- Sorry to resurrect such an old thread, but I have a question on your small pond and falls. How much splash were you getting from the falls if you recall? Also, how does the customer winterize the pond or drain it?

BTW- did they put any plants (I assume fish are out of the question) in the pond or is it just for looks? Thanks!

[zedosix]

Hey Zedo- Sorry to resurrect such an old thread, but I have a question on your small pond and falls. How much splash were you getting from the falls if you recall? Also, how does the customer winterize the pond or drain it?

BTW- did they put any plants (I assume fish are out of the question) in the pond or is it just for looks? Thanks!

Wow, we are going back at least 4 yrs since I did that job. The "splash" was contained within the perimeter of the pond, I do remember that, as far as winterizing I really don't have a clue what she does with it. I did tell her to remove the pump and I believe the water level is just lowered thru winter.
Sorry bout the rest of the questions, just haven't heard anything from her in years.

[CaptainsLS]

Ok- sounds good. You did a nice job with it BTW, I just can see how the falls would be removed for the winter...

Anyone else know if a little pond like the one Zedo built could be a home for small fish? If you can put fish in there what do you do with them during the winter?

[cgland]

replace them in the spring

[CaptainsLS]

replace them in the spring

Really?!? They are like annuals, lol?:pound:

[cgland]

Pretty much! Especially on a pond that shallow. I have heard on rare occasions that they stay alive even after being frozen all winter.

[Sierrascaper]

Healthy goldfish will tolerate freezing. They do better with long cold winters with only one freeze cycle. Also better if there is some mud they can bury into. We had some that lasted 5-6 winters. Not sure on Koi. I have some customers that have some very extensive setups in their basements to store there prize fish over winter. Others just throw a heater in the pond.

[RandallK]

If you just had a few goldfish, you could always put them in a bowl for the winter. We have a couple that go in a small water feature outside in the summer but we put them in a bowl in the winter. I like the creative thinking in the design of the waterfall. It adds a nice little extra to a good looking patio and wall.