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JZap
02-12-2009, 07:37 PM
I went to a lighting seminar today about new Unique and Focus Lighting fixtures. I have to say...
Unique makes a nice fixture and has good-better-best range of products. I really like the idea of this 24 Volt Intellihub. Basically cuts out a lot of cost on both wire and labor. The voltage loss is regulated with this system. And the fixture leads can all be 14/2 wire. The trunk is a 10/2 wire, but allows for a further trunk line if needed with minimal loss. Intellisystem (http://www.uniquelighting.com/product_pages/IntelliSystem.htm)

Focus has basically the same fixtures from what I saw with the addition of a few fixtures made overseas. The fixtures are called "Rx." They were spun copper and not bad looking, but had a cheap screw at the hinge and I wonder what they would look like in a few year. They also make a bad version of the Integral light (Unique's version is so-so; a little too thick). But one interesting thing was the VRS adapter. It's an in-line regulator to adjust to voltage loss and also fade-on and off. Which is good for bulb longevity if you have these cold days like in PA and North. If you had to fix an existing system, you could take this adapter and add them to each fixture or even one at the beginning of the line (not positive on this). This would regulate the proper voltage to each fixture without having to replace any wire. It costs about $20. But a good quick fix.

cgland
02-12-2009, 08:28 PM
Good info John. I think lighting is probably one of the easiest add-ons to sell. I think that if one can learn enough about lighting and sell it they will see profit margins go up.

HRLand
02-13-2009, 09:33 AM
Thanks for that info. I was supposed to go to a seminar on that last week but got snowed out.

Harmony Design Group
02-13-2009, 03:58 PM
The next big thing to hit the landscape lighting industry is going to LED lighting. I was told the technology is one year way. The great thing about LED is the number of lights you will be able to connect to your runs. It is going to take alot of the math out of lighting.

MuirView Design
02-13-2009, 08:37 PM
I was looking at the LED lights that Vista has. They are pretty nice looking. They fit 5 or more LED's into one light, so the illumination isn't much different. One drawback is that in the winter, the LED's don't create any heat, so the snow will accumulate on the uplights.

4seasons
02-14-2009, 01:35 PM
the one bad thing I see with this system or even LED's are even the hacks will beable to put a system together that will work.

JZap
02-16-2009, 03:18 AM
The LEDs are definately AT LEAST a year away. I don't think the technology is in place for LEDs to be worth the extra cost right now. Essentially they are adapted to fit the existing transformers. They will soon have their own system completely, I'm sure.

Ed Smith
02-16-2009, 10:17 AM
If you compare the total materail job price led vs incd lights the job cost are the same smaller transformers 60% less watts main feeds no 12 or 10 ga. wire use 16 or14 ga. less power less chance of splice failure .only the led fixtures are more kitchler lighting has leds today in either warm (incd) or cool (old led) you chose The material costs ARE the same.

MuirView Design
02-16-2009, 11:21 AM
The LEDs are definately AT LEAST a year away. I don't think the technology is in place for LEDs to be worth the extra cost right now. Essentially they are adapted to fit the existing transformers. They will soon have their own system completely, I'm sure.


At least a year from being on the market? Or from being worth a damn? I don't know much about them, just what the rep from vista told me. I found these available for purchase.

http://www.outdoorlightingdirect.com/vista.htm

JZap
02-17-2009, 12:58 AM
A year from being worth while. I guess where I'm going with this is that they currently make LED replacements or adapters that will work with MR16 bulb type fixtures, but they give a 2 year warranty...they claim the life of this bulb is say 20 years, let's even say it's 10 years. Why do they only warranty these products right now for 2 years? Maybe it's b/c they are still working out some issues with housing the LEDS to produce a long lasting products? I'm not sure, but I feel this is definately an area where some manufacturer's are ahead of others. You look at the pool/pond industries which use LEDs much more frequently and the success they've had. I feel LED lights would look better with a frosted lens to even the throw.