View Full Version : Why Seal Pavers?
Does everybody on here seal pavers? I have never sealed any paver jobs.
rake eye
11-28-2007, 06:24 PM
When we are installing a driveway, I will recomend sealing to the HO. It helps prevent oil stains. And I've also found that some HO prefer the wet look that you can get from sealing.
curbman
11-28-2007, 08:56 PM
I seal all of our pavestone and alot of the garden block walls we do. It really brings out the color in the blocks and keeps them from fading out over time. I went to PA this summer and my parents told me that it looked as if the blocks were fading and they are now having them sealed. I use the same sealer I use on acid stains night and day look.
ZX12R
12-15-2007, 02:30 PM
I want to seal a wall but have been reluctant to do it.I do not want a wet look,I just want to slow down the fading process.What do you think,is it worth it?
cgland
12-15-2007, 05:23 PM
I want to seal a wall but have been reluctant to do it.I do not want a wet look,I just want to slow down the fading process.What do you think,is it worth it?
Techniseal makes a product that doesn't change the look of the product. It just beads off in the rain.
Chris
ZX12R
12-15-2007, 05:38 PM
Thank you Chris,I will do it.
scaper27
12-15-2007, 11:48 PM
Techniseal makes a product that doesn't change the look of the product. It just beads off in the rain.
Chris
I actually used that Techni-seal and it worked great
Vexcon natural finish brings out the color while still maintaining the dry-look. That might work well on a wall. I had someone ask us to seal the caps once b/c it was next to the sealed walkway, but then I sealed a block and cap I brought from our shop and he didn't like it. Glad I did that. Test it out first!
ZX12R
12-17-2007, 09:53 PM
"Vexcon natural finish brings out the color while still maintaining the dry-look. That might work well on a wall. I had someone ask us to seal the caps once b/c it was next to the sealed walkway, but then I sealed a block and cap I brought from our shop and he didn't like it. Glad I did that. Test it out first!"
That's interesting John.I want to seal a shale gray techo wall. A finish that brings out the color sounds nice. Have you seen "VEXCON" applied to a wall. If so,what's your opinion on how it looks?
SzotAllied
12-18-2007, 02:28 PM
I had someone ask us to seal the caps once b/c it was next to the sealed walkway, but then I sealed a block and cap I brought from our shop and he didn't like it. Glad I did that. Test it out first!
Finally!! Someone figured it out :dance:
SzotAllied
12-18-2007, 02:29 PM
John, were you using solvent or water based? I dont think Vexcon solvent is legal in Jersey...
on the wall? solvent... I actually was shooting for the "wet-look" on the sample, so they would see the difference between the coloring of sealed pavers and the split face of the block. But then knowing they're anxious to waste money I recommended we pop the caps and put some Integral lights in. Money better spent! Didn't happen, but I ended getting a great reference for my honesty.
SzotAllied
12-19-2007, 04:54 PM
Sorry, I meant Illegal in Jersey
chardscapes
04-29-2008, 05:51 PM
I have a customer wanting to seal 800 square of pavement. Can I do it right fater the install ? Is it straightforeward ? I know at MAHTS thye offered a class on it. I can't see where it would be that involved. I have never sealed anything.
scaper27
04-29-2008, 05:54 PM
you should wait at least 90 days after install before applying any sealer
paponte
04-29-2008, 06:20 PM
We normally recommend waiting 60days to a year before we seal. Ever seal in efflorescence?
cgland
04-29-2008, 10:08 PM
You can seal it right away, but you will have to clean it, hit it with efflo remover, and then seal it. Either way, if you seal within the first year you will need to use the efflo cleaner.
chardscapes
04-30-2008, 08:03 AM
Gotcha.Thanks
We usually recommend at least 6 months to seal. It helps save time cleaning effl. It's pretty basic, effl. cleaner, degreaser, let it dry a few days (unless it's real hot then I wouldn't seal at all until it cools down), then we spray the sealant and then roll evenly. Some pavers are easier to just roll, but others (EP Henry OTC) are harder to get in between pavers evenly without sparaying.
Szot should be able to help with any other questions, but I recommend asking the distributor you buy your sealant products from.
Spring Meadows
05-28-2008, 09:14 PM
Is there a cost per square foot on cleaning and sealing? Had a lady call yesterday asking about a square foot price for cleaning and sealing. I said I usually just look at it and figure my cost and time (+ profit of course). BUT, she is 50 miles away and I'm the only one in the area doing work through the distributor that she called. I really don't want to drive 50 miles to go look at the job.
allhardscaping
03-21-2009, 12:13 AM
You will need to know your costs per square foot. Divide your sealer and sand into price per square foot. Then figure how long it will take you and what your labor rate is, divide that by sq ft and do the same for the rate you normally use for overhead per hour. Once you do it once you can use it all the time. Until things change or you have a really small or really big job.
For an 800 sq ft patio you could gt 1.5 if you are cleaning, sanding and sealing. It will also depend on what trtype of sealer oyu are using. I would suggest playing arounf with seale ron some sample sor even going through a cert course before trying it on someone spavers though. It is easy to screw up, especially solvent based sealers.
paversrus
03-25-2009, 05:22 PM
Every manufacturer is different and uses different ad-mixes to combat efflorescence, plus the density of the paver will vary both by manufacturer and depending on the humidity at the time of production. All of these factors will effect the amount of time you should wait before sealing (including the time the pavers have been sitting around before you installed them). A minimum of 3 weeks. Efflorescence can be tricky, and if your not careful, some eff remover products applied to some pavers will agitate the efflorescence and draw more to the surface. In other words you cant count on just hitting it with the eff then sealing it immediately.
Meanix
03-25-2009, 07:45 PM
Is that your bus name!??
zettle007
09-01-2011, 12:56 PM
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job was just finished, I am in NJ so cosidering waiting after winter to seal.
Patio is in direct sun all summer, so I am hoping by sealing it, it will not fad as quickly.
Aer there some of you who never seal pavers? Not 100% sure if I should bother or not.
Any opinions great appreciated
MuirView Design
09-01-2011, 03:34 PM
Personally I don't like the look of sealed pavers. Especially with a red blend paver. I think "enhancing" the sharp and fake looking color blends is tacky. If it needs to be done for practical reasons such as a driveway, then go for it. I think you'll find your pavers will gain color as they weather and clean off, then they will fade slightly to a nice well balanced color overall. I like the hardscape to blend in and be the backdrop or floor to the overall scheme, not loud and boisterous. But that's just me.
zettle007
09-01-2011, 04:09 PM
Personally I don't like the look of sealed pavers. Especially with a red blend paver. I think "enhancing" the sharp and fake looking color blends is tacky. If it needs to be done for practical reasons such as a driveway, then go for it. I think you'll find your pavers will gain color as they weather and clean off, then they will fade slightly to a nice well balanced color overall. I like the hardscape to blend in and be the backdrop or floor to the overall scheme, not loud and boisterous. But that's just me.
Thansk again!! I was leaning that way and that is what I am going to do.
There are "wet" look sealers and "dry" look sealers. I don't personally care for the wet look- IMHO they make the pavers more slick when wet and just don't look right on a sunny day. A "dry" look sealer from a quality manufacturer should help with fading.
That being said, I've never applied the first drop of sealer to any paver....
Commonwealth Curb Appeal
09-23-2011, 09:35 AM
Seal N' Lock is the best product by far in my opinion...Clean, Sand and Seal all in one day! Their WET look product is great, it doesn't look overly glossy and fake.. it gives it a slight gloss while also slightly enhancing the colors. The other great thing about it is that it doubles as a joint stabilizer!
bigvalley
11-02-2011, 11:43 PM
Seal N' Lock is the best product by far in my opinion...Clean, Sand and Seal all in one day! Their WET look product is great, it doesn't look overly glossy and fake.. it gives it a slight gloss while also slightly enhancing the colors. The other great thing about it is that it doubles as a joint stabilizer!
In your experience, how long did the "wet look" last?
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