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cgland
11-24-2007, 10:21 PM
Does anyone keep a file of 'Junk Work" pics that they show to customers? here are a few that are in my folder. The wall in the first couple pics was only 6 months old when it fell. Notice where the drain tile is located and the amount of drainage stone.
Chris
NCSULandscaper
11-24-2007, 11:00 PM
yes i do have a couple of them
NCSULandscaper
11-24-2007, 11:00 PM
notice the lack of everything
NCSULandscaper
11-24-2007, 11:01 PM
i believe this wall was about 1 week old lol
cgland
11-24-2007, 11:07 PM
WOW! That's bad
Chris
dclandscaping
11-25-2007, 03:39 AM
Hows this? lol
This is the guy I worked for before I went on my own. WTF!!!
How do you learn anything from that. Thank goodness for you guys helping me out.
PS I had nothing to do with it!
dclandscaping
11-25-2007, 03:42 AM
Couldn't resist here's another dandy!!!
zedosix
11-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Tell me this is not what your old boss is responsible for.
dclandscaping
11-25-2007, 12:02 PM
Wish I could, what a joke for a landscaper. He gets in and out as quick as possible leaving it looking like ****. Needless to say I take pride in MY work.
These are some more of his wonders, Notice a pattern here???
Craig
markam70
12-12-2007, 11:32 PM
the local competition's work..........
Dg not only are they not quality, they're flat out ugly designs. No offense to your old boss or whatever, but they look like scraps were used to make those jobs.
dclandscaping
12-13-2007, 04:59 AM
Dg not only are they not quality, they're flat out ugly designs. No offense to your old boss or whatever, but they look like scraps were used to make those jobs.
No offence taken, they are crappy!!!!!
MuirView Design
12-13-2007, 01:03 PM
Here's a doozy at one of my customers houses. Fortunately this is scheduled to be torn out and rebuilt come spring. In the third pic notice the plumb / lack of batter on the front of the wall as relative to the house. The whole front of the wall is about to topple over and take the cherry with it. An example of what poor bond lines, no drainage and no grid will do to a little wall. Still not as scary as some of the previous big wall pics. Those are just deadly mistakes waiting to happen!!
CaptainsLS
12-15-2007, 07:07 PM
What are you goin to do with that cherry?
MuirView Design
12-15-2007, 11:08 PM
Don't know yet. Not sure what's gonna happen with the whole design yet. We are more than likely moving the cherry, but that's a tricky one. I don't want to remove the cherry without an immediate home, so I may have to build the rest of the project first, move the cherry and then rebuild that wall. i talked to the customer yesterday and he mentioned he wanted to do the wall out of boulders. I think the radius is too tight......stacked stone with a few boulders mixed in would be sh-t though. Move the cherry and put something smaller there. I got the winter to come up with something. I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions when the time comes.
GreenMonster
12-18-2007, 05:48 PM
OMG, those are some of the worst installs I've ever seen.
Whenever I see stuff that bad, particularly bad riser heights, and failing walls, it really makes me think a lot of the stuff we do should be subject to permits and inspection, and licensing for landscapers as well.
lawnkid
12-18-2007, 06:47 PM
OMG, those are some of the worst installs I've ever seen.
Whenever I see stuff that bad, particularly bad riser heights, and failing walls, it really makes me think a lot of the stuff we do should be subject to permits and inspection, and licensing for landscapers as well.
Most of the cities I do work in require permits and bonding for building a wall. Like Matt mentioned in another thread, inspections are required too. One for when base in compacted, one for when drainage pipe is put in, another for each pull of grid, and a final inspection. One wall we did this year required I think it was $100,000 bonding and a permit. Before I started, I had to have a drawn plan of what I was doing for drainage.
mckeeland
12-18-2007, 07:27 PM
how difficult is it to get bonding for those types of jobs? i am going to be bidding on some work this year that might require bonding.
cgland
12-18-2007, 09:37 PM
Bonding is strictly based on credit worthiness. If you have good credit, you will get your bond.
Chris
SCgreenscapes
12-18-2007, 10:21 PM
do you guys have to get inspections for all size walls or just ones over a certain size. is that for residential and commercial. It could really kill production if you have to bring in an inspector for a smaller wall with every little move you make.
Meanix
12-18-2007, 10:30 PM
In my area townships want permits for everything. Its just a matter of how long your on the job and the location (hidden) if you need to go through with it. Once you get registered with the twnshp its not that big a deal. I certainly would not wait for a perm on a little job if i had nothing to do. All the twnshp wants is $.
SCgreenscapes
12-18-2007, 11:36 PM
geeze. around here, unless it is over 6 feet tall, you don't need anything. of course, that is a bad thing to if you are the homeowner and working with a scrub.
-EGLC-
12-19-2007, 03:01 PM
Anything over 4' here & you need a permit & it has to be engineered.
chesie
01-07-2008, 10:51 PM
Here is a wall that I was actually scared to stand beneath. Take notice to the artfull hanging GeoGrid!
chesie
01-07-2008, 10:52 PM
Try that again.
CaptainsLS
01-07-2008, 11:11 PM
Hey, as long as its there. Right?!
SCgreenscapes
01-07-2008, 11:22 PM
those gaps are for drainage right?
Ground effects NH
01-21-2008, 11:00 AM
A few photos of a job I lost. This is what she got!
Ground effects NH
01-21-2008, 11:06 AM
Few more of the wall.
Meanix
01-21-2008, 12:13 PM
No straight lines in nature. Ha
Here's some beauties I snapped on an estimate today. We'll be fixing this Home Depot special in addition to a new front walk and landscape.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df00b3127cceb4823073998b00000026100AYtWzZu1aNm MA
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df00b3127cceb4823071998900000026100AYtWzZu1aNm MA
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df00b3127cceb482307018b800000026100AYtWzZu1aNm MA
SCgreenscapes
01-21-2008, 05:49 PM
NICE LOW SPOT THERE BY THE DOOR. i BET THAT DOES WELL WHEN IT FREEZES.
chardscapes
01-21-2008, 06:08 PM
I'm guessing the didn't offer a warranty ?
It was there when they moved in a few months ago. He's not sure of the installer, but he was told it was EP Henry. I gave him the bad news that it was a Home Depot Special. I agreed to fix all the edging around the whole bottom patio (not shown), and attempt to level the raised patio temporaily. He wants to rip it out in the near future, so i agreed to make it "safe" even though I want to just rip it apart completely. Can't work for free!
mpickel
01-29-2008, 04:48 PM
My trip to the post office today:
Meanix
01-29-2008, 05:08 PM
That stacked bond is strong
AintNoFun
01-29-2008, 05:35 PM
come on you guys, can we see some pics of other peoples not work, not all of your own work.. lol
custom patios
01-29-2008, 05:36 PM
That stacked bond is strong
i even buried a course.
cgland
01-29-2008, 08:46 PM
I've got a 6" pull of grid in that one!
Evening Star Lighting
02-01-2008, 04:12 AM
I almost caused a 5 car pileup when I slammed on my brakes to witness this mess. I can not believe... absolutely can not believe that anyone could be this stupid and have no sense what so ever on installing a wall. There are many pallets of material here, and probably took several weeks to complete. It amazes me that not one second of thought went into this project.
CaptainsLS
02-01-2008, 02:10 PM
What an abortion! Sometimes you just have to feel bad for the HO. What does someone do when that happens? Will homeowners insurance absorb any of that, or is the only option to sue the contractor?
IMPACT
02-01-2008, 02:49 PM
Unfortuantely, sometimes the HO feels they got a good product at a good price...until they have something to measure it against. As soon as I am feeling better, I will get some pics from this one neighborhood where there must be 5 or 6 abominations such as that.
NCSULandscaper
02-01-2008, 04:20 PM
the homeowner could have done it themselves
SzotAllied
02-04-2008, 04:11 PM
I really hope that was a DIY. I just cant imagine any contractor, even a really bad one, putting something like that together...Looks like EP Henry threw up.
Meanix
02-05-2008, 08:15 PM
Probably the worst job I have ever seen. Some HO got a reasonable price and said "I can do that, com on wifey lets build some crooked walls today."
kootoomootoo
02-15-2008, 07:02 PM
Surely this gets an award..........
Evening Star Lighting
02-15-2008, 11:11 PM
That's Versa-Lok with incorrectly installed corners. Looks like too much salt too.
mpickel
06-11-2008, 12:09 AM
Almost caused a wreck today stopping for these!
musclecarboy
06-11-2008, 12:24 AM
How The Hell Can You Install Something Like That And Walk Away And Go Sleep??????????
cgland
06-11-2008, 11:42 PM
Hey, thats what the customer wanted!!!
mpickel
06-12-2008, 12:41 AM
The sad thing is the top one is for sale. I'm surprised the realtor did not recommend tearing it down. For the life of me I can not believe they paid to have that installed. Any potential buyer pulls up, and I'm sure has to check out what else was done to the house, for curiosity sake. I need to check how many days on the market...
CaptainsLS
06-12-2008, 11:00 PM
This might not be "junk" work, but I'm not sure of the overall theme of this garden:
http://www.catswhiskerstours.com/uploaded_images/frank-tour003_edited-780433.JPG
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