Intergral Lighting

[NewHorizon's Land]

Is this easy to use and what is the cost like?

[mckeeland]

i am assuming ur talking about the under cap lights? we just installed 9 of them on a job last week. they went in very easy with techo bloc. the pin slot makes a nice channel to run the wire down. they run about $45 each for powder coated and $55 each for copper or brass.

[cgland]

Thats all we use for our wall installs. They look, install and work great!

[SzotAllied]

We sell integral and have had alot of success with them. I have noticed that I'm selling alot of replacement bulbs...are any of you having problems with bulbs burnung out prematurely(sp?)??

[Evening Star Lighting]

Our lamp lasts over 15,000 hours. At 9 hours a day (dust till dawn) that's 4-1/2 years. The bulbs are burning out because of the extreme heat and exposure to the elements.

[cgland]

The only way you will see bulbs burning out is if they were improperly installed. Daisy chaining will result in blown bulbs as typically contractors bump up the tap to keep the end bulbs bright, thus blowing the first couple of bulbs prematurely.

[NCSULandscaper]

also just touching the bulbs with bare hands will cause them to blow from the oils in your skin

[Mike 33]

They dont make any good light bulb any more, im always changing 1 in my house some where.
Mike

[Evening Star Lighting]

I'd like to see some photos of fixtures mounted in wet locations, after one season. Steps are prone to salt splash during the winter months, and lights on retaining walls usually get hit with a 1/2 hour blast of water from irrigation systems.

Even run-off from concrete caps has salts and minerals that leach out and corrode electrical sockets.

Heres a wedge socket that's prone to corrosion:

[Andrew Hardscape]

Vista also has an under the cap light. Which if you're path lights and uplights, makes for 1-stop shopping.

[SzotAllied]

Evening Star, does you company make an under cap light?

[Evening Star Lighting]

5 styles of metal in natural finishes and 8 styles of Faux powder-coat.

[Evening Star Lighting]

Send me a PM if you need any information.

[NewHorizon's Land]

Allied How much are your intergral lights?

[chesie]

New Horizon-

Aquarius Supply in Salisbury and Millersville sell integral if you need a local supplier.

Btw I saw one of your ads the other day in one of the local papers. Looked nice!

[NewHorizon's Land]

Chesie- Was it shore home and garden?

[chesie]

I am pretty sure that is where I saw it.

[GreenMonster]

where are you guys running the wiring in a seat wall application?

[cgland]

Mark - we run a conduit up the wall and use a chop saw to cut a grove in the top of the block to accompdate wire. If you use Techo you will already have a built in groove.

[GreenMonster]

Mark - we run a conduit up the wall and use a chop saw to cut a grove in the top of the block to accompdate wire. If you use Techo you will already have a built in groove.

so on the outside of the wall in a "hidden" location, and then in groove of the top course?

[Hokie84]

Is ther a rule of thumb for the spacing of these lights in a typical seating wall?

[cgland]

it really comes down to personal preferece. On a 16' wall I will probably put 2 in. I'm not a big fan of the runway effect, so I like to keep it more subtle

[CMSStoneworks]

does anyone have any good pics of these lights installed?

[cgland]

I believe I do, I'll try and find them

[CMSStoneworks]

thanks chris. just wanna see how much actual light they put off. are they more of a accent light or do they provide some light like a path light?

[4seasons]

here are some pics of FX lights I think.

[cgland]

These are the picks I have of the Integrals

[MuirView Design]

Has anyone ever used or seen integral lights used in a masonry application? If not, any suggestions on the best way to light up masonry steps with a similar effect?

[cgland]

Adam, why couldn't you install them the same way?

[JZap]

We have installed a few with wet-laid caps on walls. We glued the light down to the wall first then just laid the caps as usual.

[MuirView Design]

I was thinking it would be the same technique, but wasn't sure about mortaring on my bullnose and capping over the lights as opposed to just glue in a dry app. We are also capping an existing concrete slab with travertine and travertine bullnose and also ledgestone veneer and putting in integral lights. Where would you suggest we hide the wiring given the solid slab?

[Mbella]

Adam, can you run the wire under the ledgestone and behind the travertine on the lower level? If so, you can notch the face of the existing slab where each light will be located in order to create a channel. Run the line for each light in the channel.

[JZap]

Ditto. I was gonna say cut a channel.

[MuirView Design]

Thanks guys....that sounds like the way to go. I'll see if I can take some pics of the install. My little guy just threw my 10MP camera on the ground and broke the screen, so I need to get a new camera. Any suggestions for good cameras that take panoramic shoots?

[bigvictu]

Gonna post on this thread instead of starting a new one. The few lighting jobs I have done i have used the hub method. But on a long wall using integral lights i'm guessing it would be much easier to use a t-wiring just splicing in down the line. on the phone they actually reccommend this technique. What do you guys usually do in this situation?

[bigvictu]

:whistle::whistle::whistle:

[ClearValley]

By no means am I an expert but I would think "t-wiring" might be easier . Not sure how much it would affect the voltage drop.